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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2008.12.18 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Man on 18/12/2008 16:39:45
Originally by: Dakt NiRuthgar Roger. We'll take this into account. May just have found a nice little route that could work out well with the advice given.
Thanks y'all :D
Further to this, when I started out, most of my profit came from trading missile launchers in lvl 4 hubs around caldari space. I would station trade in the hubs, buying eg Advanced 'Limos' Heavy launchers, I could buy them at 500k in the hubs and sell in same station for 1.5-2mil. I would find that I would gather 2-3times the volume I was able to sell so every so often I would haul my over supply to Jita and dump it there, would still get ~ 1mil per unit. While in Jita I would stock up on Tech2 mods I knew would sell in the hubs but are much cheap in Jita due to heavy competition. Once you have a nice pile of Isk and stock you can use it to force the markets in your direction so for a few days before stocking the lvl 4 hubs with tech 2 I would station trade in Jita for limited to no profit just to crash the market to make my purchases cheaper. These Items are not as lucrative anymore but the principal is the same.
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2008.12.19 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Galimbu Kind of a weird question but as a new hauler/trader I keep seeing this:
Why are courier contracts created with a collateral that is far, far, far more than the worth of the goods being moved?
There is differences to valuations too, Person A might value Trit at 3 Isk per unit because that is what they could get now on buy order. A person manufacturing from that trit might make an equivalent og 4.5 isk per unit including profit from good produced, their production stops without said minerals so they dont want to lose them and if the courier get ganked on route they would still want their 4.5 per unit.
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.01.06 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Loaby can someone please explain me the donchian channel? i dont get it. start with adam and eve, please
Donchian Channel
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.01.06 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Man on 06/01/2009 13:31:46
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Midas Man
Originally by: Loaby can someone please explain me the donchian channel? i dont get it. start with adam and eve, please
Donchian Channel
Best explanation really, although you missed a perfect good Adam and Eve joke there Midas 
Numb brain from work 
edit lol forgot joke
On the Second day God says to Adam, "I have some good news... and some bad news."
Adam responds, "Well tell me the good news first."
"Alright my son, the good news is I will give you both a brain and a *****... the bad news is I'm only going to give you enough blood to run one at a time."
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.01.06 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Man on 06/01/2009 16:33:19
Originally by: Loaby
thats why i dont understand the donchian channel
joking aside, in basic terms the Donchian channel show the change in price of the item over time. Anything with a wide donchian channel, signals a good opportunity for speculative trading. ie buy when price is near the lower end and sell at the high end. Watching the items for a week or two should allow you to spot when to buy and when to sell. Anything with a narrow donchian channel will be pointless to day trade on, but opportunities can be spotted in regional variance on the item, so look for areas where items are cheaper, that said if the donchian channel is narrow trading then generally opportunities will be small.
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.01.09 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Man on 09/01/2009 09:42:07
Originally by: Aluin Chaput
True. It would take some nice market manipulation, either overpriced goods in a highly traveled system of under priced goods in a low traveled system to pull off, but maybe somebody could do it. It would be really interesting to see, who knows, maybe somebody will pull it off.
IMO the only possible way to pull off a feat like this would be to target rare items. ie taking the majority of the popular deadspace/officer mods and ship etc aswell as building materials for tech2 out of Jita and moving them to your new location.
Underpriced goods would be the wrong way to go because you would just open the flood gate for interregion traders to reverse your attempt and take it back to Jita for profit.
It would be very expensive and maynot work quickly, you would need to keep moving large volumes of the ggods out of Jita until people start to abandon it for your new hub.
The biggest hurdle would be the volume of traders that rely on a system like Jita, and im sure many would invest money to ensure a plot like that didn't work. so i think we are stuck with jita as the "main" hub and few smaller hubs centered around points of interest until CCP decide otherwise. |

Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ronan Le'Meurtrier Just wondering:
What is the purpose of having a corporate tax rate set if the taxes paid go to the Secure Commerce Commission?
Is this only happening because our corp is renting an office and, if using a POS, that tax income would then be forwarded to the corps wallet?
Thank you for your time.
Corp taxes only get taken out of mission rewards and pirate bounties. All sales related taxes go to the SCC.
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gritchee Hi, I have 2 questions.
1- What does the green highlights means in the market windows.
2- From what I can understand, when selling minerals, the higher quantities you sell, the more you can ask per unit, is that correct?
Thank you for your time.
1) Show which buy orders are in range and covers the station you are currently in
2) Its a good rule of Thumb large producers will pay more to get the minerals in bulk. But with the way the market works all lower priced orders will get bought first even if the buyer selects your order. Location is also a factor people will pay more if the minerals they require are at "their" station, moving large quantities of minerals carries a price of its own. |

Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.04.08 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Man on 08/04/2009 14:18:38
Originally by: Hatupata I hope you guys can find time to answer something that has been bugging me as a new trader. Question: How are markets manipulated upwards? I can see how they come down with everyone dropping their prices to compete but I don't understand how items go upwards slowly over the course of a month? Is someone taking a hand and forcing them up or is it some sort of supply issue?
Thanks in advance for your help.
If its an item where you generally have many more buy orders than average daily trade volume you can use aggresive buy orders to slowly push the price up.
ie if buy orders are currently 1 mil isk put up an order for a 25-50% of the daily volume and use 3-4 other orders of 5-10% of the daily volume (more orders here the better).
each day move you large order up by 5-10% (try to use random amounts each day to stop it looking obvious) then quickly outbid it by 0.01isk by a small order and 10 mins later outbid with another etc till all small orders are above the big order. (Anyone looking will assume a 0.01isk war is raging and most will join in. Keep a close eye on the small orders if they start filling quick and you suspect someone has noticed your ploy reduce the big order to normal prices or below (below is good if it was someone bring in cheap stock they may sell to you at the low price still) so you reduce risk of being stung.) Each day follow the same trend, big order up small one to make the market look natural and then let all your competition hold the price up.
Over the course of a week you can easily push price up enougth to profit 20-30% by selling to the buy orders.
Edit - by buy bye i cannot take this language sometimes lol
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.05.22 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Roger Kiyosaki
Originally by: Nadia Perkins I started to trading 4 days ago and i'm sellingbuyin a lot of item. Is there a tool that say you the number of sold and bought item, the earn per item, what item did you earn more with etc?
I personally use EMMA for that.
If you dont feel its worth paying for emma, you can download you .csv list of transaction from the "my character" and you SUMIF and VLOOKUP/HLOOKUP functions in excel to calculate what your looking for. using Emma will make it easier but if you dont mind spreadsheet once you got one running its just a case of copy paste with the .csv file once a week.
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.05.22 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Man on 22/05/2009 14:26:44
Originally by: Dread Medina Building ships is damn unprofitable, you could make the same amount as building and selling a ship by just selling the materials for it. Even when you do make a profit its for a tiny amount.
For example, materials required to build 30 Kestrel Frigates values about 7 Million
The amount made from selling 30 Kestrels? 7 Million?! Whats the point in building anything?
The main point of manufacturing is to make a profit (although some people do it for fun). In certain items it is very difficult but most manufactured items follow a simple pattern.
1)Item is unprofitable so people stop building. 2)Less supply causes the prices to inflate. 3)At some point it becomes fairly profitable again. 4)People notice this new profit potential and start manufacturing like crazy 5) Excess supply causes prices to fall and we are back to 1)
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.07.15 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: glas mir
Originally by: Lasakywa Hi, maybe it has been answered before..
I would like to know why the price of all implants increased so much lately ?
For example : Hardwiring - Eifyr and Co 'gunslinger' AX-2 -> 275m instead of 120m.
Do you think the price of all implants will drop soon ?
Thanks.
can't say for sure, but if you look at the market graph with different time filters, i.e. 10 days, 1 month, 3 months, 1 year. And couple that with rumors of a recent large scale macro ban you can make your own opinions. Manipulation of the market could certainly be causing them to trade above trend or it could be the fundamentals changed, that is there new "cost."
I trade in the Hardwiring implants, from my experience CCP have on a few occasions banned numerous macro/RMT account, as these are the most common source of these implants the supply massively reduces shortly after. I always keep a number of various hardwiring is stock from when they are ~95mil to seed into the market in these conditions.
I will also buy up the stock from the market in these condition, most other traders know what price people will pay and if you relist from ~120m to 200-300 depending on implant most of the time the price sticks for a while.
In the past the macro/RMT have been back usually within a month or so once they get new character's skilled up.
As a safty net use a 1 unit order for the implants and push the price up to 10-15 above what you bought them and when you notice the supply increase you can dump left over stock for a decent profit still.
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